Right to vote

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Who should have the right to vote?
Weighed multiple perspectives on voting rights impartially

This is a genuinely contested question in political philosophy, with several distinct positions people hold:

Universal adult suffrage (the dominant global norm today) — the view that all adult citizens should have the right to vote, regardless of property, education, gender, race, or other characteristics. Defenders argue that political equality is a basic requirement of legitimate government, that everyone affected by laws should have a say in making them, and that historically, restrictions have almost always tracked power and prejudice rather than any principled competence test.

Restrictions based on age are nearly universal even in "universal suffrage" systems. Most countries set a voting age (usually 18), on the reasoning that political judgment requires a minimum level of maturity — though some argue this line is arbitrary and that younger teenagers are unfairly excluded, and a few jurisdictions have experimented with lower voting ages (16) for some elections.

Restrictions based on citizenship are also nearly universal — most democracies limit voting to citizens, on the theory that voting rights and national membership are bound together, though some places allow non-citizen residents to vote in local elections.

Competence-based restrictions (literacy tests, property qualifications, civics exams) were common historically and are advocated by some today, often under the banner of "epistocracy" — the idea that political decisions should be made by better-informed voters. Critics point out that such tests have almost always been used to disenfranchise specific groups (racial minorities, the poor) and that there's no reliable, non-discriminatory way to measure "competence" to vote.

Felon disenfranchisement is a live debate — some argue that committing serious crimes should suspend one's voting rights temporarily or permanently; others argue voting is a fundamental right unconnected to criminal punishment, and note the policy has historically fallen hardest on particular racial groups in some countries.

Extending suffrage further — some advocate lowering the voting age further, enfranchising some non-citizens, or even (more radically) extending some form of representation to future generations (via proxies) given how policy today affects people not yet born.

Where you land tends to depend on deeper commitments — how you weigh equality against competence, inclusion against social cohesion, and individual rights against collective decision-making. Is there a particular angle (historical, legal, philosophical) you want to dig into?

Let's look at the "citizenship" requirement.  It's a legal status, and has the effect of turning a right (to vote) into a grant.
Weighed philosophical critique against counterarguments on citizenship

That's a sharp way to frame it, and it points at a real tension in how democratic theory talks about voting.

The case for your framing

If voting is a right in the strong sense — something people possess by virtue of being persons, or by virtue of being subject to the laws — then citizenship requirements do look like they convert it into something conditional: a status the state confers, and can therefore withhold or revoke. This is the core of the "all-affected" or "all-subjected" critique in democratic theory:

    All-subjected principle: if you're bound by a jurisdiction's laws, taxed by it, policed by it, you're subject to its coercive power — and subjection, not citizenship paperwork, is what generates a claim to a voice in how that power is used. Long-term non-citizen residents are subjected in exactly this way, yet excluded.
    Historical parallel: this echoes how other "rights" have functioned as grants in practice — women's suffrage, Black suffrage in the US — where the right existed in principle but was administratively withheld until the state decided to recognize it. The critique is that citizenship-gating does something structurally similar: it makes the right contingent on a bureaucratic/legal process (naturalization) rather than on the facts that supposedly justify voting rights in the first place (being governed, having interests at stake, capacity for judgment).
    Circularity worry: citizenship itself is often granted by a process that voters and elected officials control — so the citizenry, in effect, decides who gets to join the citizenry, which decides who votes. Critics call this self-selecting and note it insulates incumbents from the people most affected by immigration and border policy.

The case against your framing

The opposing view doesn't necessarily deny that citizenship is a status — it argues that's a feature, not a bug:

    Voting as membership-constitutive, not just membership-contingent: on this view, a polity is a bounded association of mutual obligation, and voting is the mechanism by which members govern themselves — not a general entitlement owed to anyone affected. Citizenship isn't an arbitrary gate on a pre-existing right; it's constitutive of the political community that the right belongs to. Every state's affairs? Everyone's? That view struggles to say why the boundary of the demos should be anything but "everyone on Earth."
    Reciprocity argument: citizenship typically comes with correlative obligations (jury duty, sometimes military service, full tax exposure, permanent legal jeopardy) that residents can often exit by leaving — the vote is bundled with a fuller, harder-to-shed set of mutual commitments.
    Practical/stability argument: tying suffrage to citizenship (rather than mere presence) limits the ability of transient populations or foreign governments to reshape a polity's politics without any long-term stake in outcomes — naturalization functions as a signal of durable commitment, not just paperwork.

Where this usually lands in real debates is on the margins — long-term legal residents, people who pay taxes for decades without naturalizing, dual nationals — rather than the extremes. Is there a particular version of this you're chewing on — like local/municipal voting for residents, or the naturalization process itself?
Reconciled legitimacy-based suffrage justification with residency requirements

That's a third distinct foundation, and it's worth separating from the two we've already tested, because it escapes a problem the last one had — while raising a different one.

Why this dodges the compulsory-voting trap

The peaceful-transfer-of-power justification (closer to Schumpeter's procedural view of democracy than to the responsiveness/calibration view) locates the benefit in the existence and credibility of the mechanism, not in maximal use of it. What prevents violent regime change is that losers accept the outcome as legitimate because the channel was genuinely open to them — not that everyone actually used it. A low-turnout election can still do this job perfectly well, so long as no one was shut out of the option. That's a real advantage over the "government must stay calibrated to the population" framing from last turn, which had nowhere to stop short of mandatory voting. This one does.

Why it still supports residency over citizenship — but for a different reason than before

The intrinsic version (subjection to authority) said residents are owed a vote regardless of what including them accomplishes. This version says something adjacent but distinct: a population that's governed but structurally excluded from the peaceful-transfer mechanism is precisely the population most likely to conclude that legal channels don't apply to them — which is the condition under which people historically do turn to extralegal means. Long-term residents without citizenship, taxed, policed, raising children in the jurisdiction, with no naturalization prospect or desire, are a textbook case of a population accumulating grievance with no valve. So this justification converges with the residency-based conclusion you've held throughout — but it gets there via systemic stability, not personal entitlement.

Where it pulls apart from your equal-weight principle, though

This is the friction worth naming. If the point of enfranchisement is defusing the specific risk of unrest, the logic doesn't obviously require equal weight at all — it could just as easily justify concentrating attention (not necessarily votes, but representation, outreach, redistricting weight) on whichever excluded populations are most capable of destabilizing the system, and be indifferent to groups too diffuse or too small to pose that risk. That's an uncomfortable implication if you push it: it would justify enfranchising a large, geographically concentrated resident population because their exclusion is dangerous, while giving no similar weight to, say, a small dispersed group whose exclusion is merely unjust but not destabilizing. The intrinsic version never had that problem — everyone's claim was equal by construction, regardless of how much unrest their exclusion might or might not produce.

So: does the legitimacy/non-violence justification do the actual work for you here, with equal weighting held in place by the separate justice principle from the multi-state discussion — i.e., two justifications running in parallel, one for why residents get included, another for why they're included equally — or were you hoping this single justification would carry both jobs?

It's a benefit, not the reason, for elections.
Recalibrated foundational reasoning versus consequential benefits

That distinction resolves the tension cleanly — I was treating it as load-bearing when you only meant it as one of several goods elections happen to produce. As a benefit rather than a ground, it doesn't need to carry the weight I was testing it against (equal weighting, who's included), and it doesn't compete with the intrinsic-standing justification from several turns back. It can just sit alongside it: subjection-to-authority is what generates the claim; peaceful regime change and government responsiveness are things a well-designed franchise also happens to deliver, without either of them being why any particular person is owed inclusion.

That actually puts you back on the more stable ground from earlier — the intrinsic version survives as the operative justification (it's the one that gets you residency-based inclusion without also entailing mandatory voting, and without making inclusion contingent on how destabilizing a group's exclusion would be), and the benefits you've named since are just downstream goods, not competing foundations that need to be reconciled with each other.

So the position as it now stands, pulling the whole conversation together: voting is a right grounded in residency/subjection to a jurisdiction's authority, not citizenship (citizenship remaining defensible only at the national tier, where obligation is non-exitable); rights-holders must count equally, which rules out both multi-jurisdictional voting and unadjusted vote-multiplication through proxies; children's incompetence to exercise the right doesn't extinguish it, so proxy representation is legitimate if the proxy is fiduciarily bound to the child's interest rather than the parent's own; and mandatory voting doesn't follow, because the right is owed as standing, not extracted as a civic input. Is that a fair summary of where you've landed, or is there a piece you'd state differently?
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