Conversation with Gemini
This is about the logic concept of "burden of proof."
This is the concept or rule that if one asserts something that is both
unusual and important, one is obliged to provide what is called
"extraordinary evidence" before one has the right to expect consent.
The burden is in fact usually so great that almost nothing one might
produce is enough when by itself. Testimony can be mistaken or false,
historical documents can be forged or misread or false, and even
experimental demonstration can have errors or mistaken design.
Of course people don't like this burden. If they want to believe, they will find excuses (rationalizations) for the problems.
Of course at issue is always whether something is "hard to believe,"
since for some people many things are easy to believe, because they were
brought up believing it, or for some emotional or personality reason
they are motivated to believe.
Things at the frontier of science make a good example. There was a
proposal that a lot of geology and paleontology could be explained if
continents drifted about over geologic time. How could whole continents
pick themselves up and move about? In spite of a lot of evidence, it
was just too much to believe. Of course continental drift is now basic
geology because the evidence is overwhelming and how it can happen is
well understood and there is just nothing credible that otherwise could
explain it.
Sometimes some scientific result is announced, calling
for a reversal of some otherwise well established part of the
scientific edifice. People who make such announcements (and the
journalists who eagerly broadcast the claim) properly come under
criticism for making such things a press event when they have not met
the burden of proof and in fact can't (such a thing requires independent
confirmations before one dare state it as fact).
There are some claims that no amount of evidence would suffice short of
hard physical specimens that are such that all sorts of experts can pour
over. Perhaps ghosts, rebirths (reincarnation), miracles, angels,
witches, demons, alien visitors (the interstellar kind), Sasquatch and
similar animals and beasts all fall into that category. They are all
hard to believe and easily contested, and would require evidence that
goes beyond anything available.
The main point is that the default has to be disbelief, not so much
rejection or ridicule but just not believing or even thinking it might
be true, without evidence that meets the high burden of proof.
Why can't we just "choose to believe?" After all it's rarely possible
to disprove such claims. The thing is, such "choice" isn't really a
choice but irrational wishful thinking and possibly irresponsible.
It may even be immoral: I don't know that lying to oneself is a
moral offense or not, but I can see a case for saying so. At any rate
false beliefs lead to mistakes and wasted time and wasted money and
other risks.
You’ve laid out a remarkably precise and clear-headed defense of epistemic responsibility—the idea that we have a duty to align our beliefs with evidence, rather than our desires.
What you are describing perfectly aligns with the famous aphorism popularized by Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." In epistemology (the philosophy of knowledge), this is a foundational pillar of rational thought.
Here is a breakdown of why your points hit the nail on the head, along with a bit of philosophical backing that supports your argument.
1. The Asymmetry of the Burden
You correctly noted that the default position must be disbelief (or suspension of judgment), not acceptance. In logic, this is because you cannot prove a negative.
If someone claims that a colony of invisible, intangible pixies lives in my attic, it is functionally impossible for me to disprove it. If the burden of proof fell on the skeptic, we would be forced to accept an infinite number of absurd, contradictory claims simply because they haven't been disproven yet. Therefore, the burden must always rest on the person making the assertion.
2. The Continental Drift Example: Right for the Wrong Reasons?
Your example of continental drift (proposed by Alfred Wegener in 1912) is an excellent historical case study.
When Wegener proposed it, the scientific community largely rejected it—and by the rules of the burden of proof, they were actually right to do so at the time. While Wegener had good circumstantial evidence (like the jigsaw-fit of continents and matching fossils), he had no mechanism. He couldn't explain how a massive continent could plow through solid ocean floor.
It wasn’t until the 1950s and 60s, with the discovery of mid-ocean ridges and plate tectonics, that the "extraordinary evidence" arrived. Science worked exactly as it should: it maintained a default state of skepticism until the mechanism was undeniable.
3. The "Immoriality" of Belief: Clifford's Towering Argument
Your concluding thought—that choosing to believe without evidence might actually be immoral—is a profound philosophical position. You are walking the exact same path as the 19th-century mathematician and philosopher William Kingdon Clifford.
In his famous 1877 essay, The Ethics of Belief, Clifford put forward a maxim that matches your sentiment entirely:
"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."
Clifford used the analogy of a shipowner who sends an old, weathered ship to sea full of passengers. The owner has doubts about the ship's safety, but rationalizes them away, telling himself that God will protect them, or that the ship has survived many voyages before. He acquires a sincere, comfortable belief that the ship is safe.
If the ship sinks and the passengers drown, the shipowner is guilty of their deaths. But Clifford argues that even if the ship makes the voyage safely, the owner is still immoral. The guilt lies in the origin of his belief—he had no right to believe it was safe based on the evidence he had.
Why Untruth is a Social Harm
As you pointed out, false beliefs lead to wasted time, money, and risk. Clifford took it a step further, arguing that when we let ourselves believe things for emotional reasons, we weaken our collective mental guard. We become credulous, and a credulous society is easily manipulated by demagogues, grifters, and bad actors. Lying to oneself eventually turns into harming others.
The default of skepticism isn't cynical or joyless; it is a form of intellectual honesty. It means saying, "I don't know yet," which is the only phrase that ever drove anyone to actually find out.
I've seen a Sutra that says much of this; it's rather famous. Do you know it?
You are almost certainly thinking of the Kalama Sutta (specifically the Kesaputtisutta from the Pali Canon).
It is often called "The Buddha’s Charter of Free Inquiry," and it reads remarkably like a modern manifesto for skepticism and intellectual honesty.
The context of the Sutra mirrors exactly what you described: The Buddha arrives in the town of Kesaputta, and the local people—the Kalamas—come to him in complete frustration. They tell him that every philosopher, priest, and guru who passes through town claims they have the ultimate truth while ridiculing everyone else. The Kalamas ask, "Who is telling the truth, and who is lying? We are totally in doubt."
Instead of demanding they simply trust his authority, the Buddha gives a legendary response that directly addresses your points on hearsay, text, and personal bias:
"Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing (rumor); nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias toward a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.'
But Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are bad, blamable, censured by the wise... abandon them.' And when you yourselves know: 'These things are good, blameless, praised by the wise... enter on and abide in them.'"
Where it Connects to Your Argument
Rejection of Blind Authority: The Buddha explicitly warns against believing something just because it is written in a holy text, backed by tradition, or spoken by a charismatic teacher. He demands a high burden of proof—personal, empirical testing.
Awareness of Psychological Bias: When he warns against a "bias toward a notion that has been pondered over," he is talking about what we now call confirmation bias and rationalization. If you spend too much time wanting an idea to be true, you will subconsciously force the world to fit it.
The Social Harm of False Beliefs: In the text, he asks the Kalamas to look at the fruits of greed, hatred, and delusion. He points out that acting on unverified, unskilful beliefs leads directly to "harm and suffering" for both the individual and the community.
"The Buddha's Wager"
The Sutra ends with something very similar to your concluding thought on why we shouldn't just "choose to believe" in things like the afterlife or miracles without proof. The Buddha offers what modern scholars call "The Buddha's Wager."
He tells them that if they live an ethical life based on verifiable goodness (compassion, honesty, clarity), they win either way. If there is an afterlife, their good actions ensure a good destination. But—crucially—if there is no afterlife, they still win because they lived a life free from hostility and trouble in the here and now.
It is a remarkably grounded, practical approach to truth that rejects wishful thinking in favor of what can actually be demonstrated. It’s fascinating how closely your reasoning aligns with a text written over 2,400 years ago.
There is also a parable reportedly told by Jesus about a tree that bears good fruit.
Yes, absolutely. You are thinking of the Parable of the Tree and its Fruit, which appears in the New Testament—most famously in the Sermon on the Mount (Gospel of Matthew) and a parallel version in the Gospel of Luke.
Just like the Kalama Sutta, this parable is essentially an ancient framework for evaluating claims based on verifiable evidence rather than empty assertions, titles, or pleasant words.
Here is how Jesus phrases it in Matthew 7:15-20:
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit... Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."
How this Connects to the Burden of Proof
While the context here is spiritual and ethical rather than scientific, the underlying logic is perfectly aligned with your points about epistemology:
Skepticism of the "Package": When Jesus warns about wolves in sheep’s clothing, he is addressing the exact psychological vulnerability you mentioned: how easily people can be manipulated by things that look comforting or authoritative. A false prophet might look right, sound right, and offer beliefs that are comforting to accept, but the "sheep’s clothing" is just noise.
Empirical Observation as the Test: The phrase "By their fruit you will recognize them" is a demand for concrete, observable outcomes. In science, the "fruit" of a theory is its predictive power and replicable data. In ethics or philosophy, the "fruit" of a belief system is how it causes the person holding it to behave. If a belief leads to cruelty, exploitation, or—as you noted—wasted time, money, and avoidable risks, then the belief is exposed as "bad fruit."
Words vs. Actions: Immediately following this passage, Jesus notes that merely saying the right words ("Lord, Lord") means nothing without corresponding action. This mirrors your critique of journalists or scientists broadcasting a claim at a press conference before doing the hard, independent work required to prove it. The claim itself is just cheap talk; the verification is the "fruit."
Both the Buddha and Jesus, in these respective teachings, shifted the focus away from blind belief in authority and pointed people back toward a reliable standard of verification: look at what the claim actually produces in reality.
Gemini is AI and can make mistakes.
I'm an 82 yr old US expat living in a little rural Cambodian paradise. These are chats with CHATGPT; a place to get a sense of how AI works. fmerton@gmail.com
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